Form Validation Default

Personally I agree with albertleao and would never put validation in a model either. Although I think a lot of these differences come simply from different interpretations of what the different parts of the MVC model are for. But since this is only a pattern people can of course adapt it, interpret it, or use it in any way suitable for the needs of the project in hand.

I often wonder if the MVC pattern itself is no longer adequate or the best fit for web applications. I already use libraries as controllers really, and controllers as supervisors or front-controllers. I also use libraries for templating too, although I think of them as a presentation layer, in an attempt to modularise output and stay as DRY as possible and keep views as php free as possible.

Paul.