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Office Hours - July 2016

#1
I am scheduling an "office hour" this coming weekend: Saturday July 9, 16:00UTC (9am my time). This was the only date/time that stood out when the community was polled for a desirable time. If there is enough support for additional "office hours", then more can certainly be scheduled.

During a one-hour timeslot starting at the above time, I will be on the CodeIgniter IRC channel to answer questions you might have. I may be joined by one or more of the other council members. For those of you unable to "attend", the transcript will be posted here.
James Parry
Project Lead
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#2
Office hour has concluded, and the transcript follows:

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(08:58:20 AM) jlparry: ***************************************************************
(08:58:20 AM) jlparry: Welcome to the CodeIgniter Office Hour(s)
(08:58:20 AM) jlparry: This is Jim Parry, Project Lead
(08:58:20 AM) jlparry: We are here to answer any questions you have. Be nice!
(08:58:20 AM) jlparry: ***************************************************************
(08:58:54 AM) Paradinight: hello
(08:59:05 AM) jlparry: heya
(09:06:58 AM) jlparry: Lively crowd, hmmm. How many in the room have tried Ci4?
(09:07:07 AM) skope: what is the meaning of life?
(09:07:12 AM) Paradinight: 42
(09:07:21 AM) skope: i havent but tested ci3 with php7
(09:07:24 AM) jlparry: not that again! it is up to 43 with PHP7
(09:07:46 AM) skope: oh they bumped the meaning of life!
(09:07:54 AM) jlparry: if not, they should have
(09:08:04 AM) Paradinight: i have only see the code and the example from kilishan
(09:08:10 AM) skope: me too
(09:08:20 AM) Paradinight: it looks clean and nice
(09:08:29 AM) skope: i agree
(09:08:33 AM) jlparry: i am converting the CI website as my testcase
(09:08:53 AM) skope: will it go to github?
(09:09:04 AM) skope: would like to see some live example
(09:09:09 AM) jlparry: yes, once I am comfortable that I am not embarassing myself
(09:09:15 AM) skope: nice
(09:09:53 AM) jlparry: i am running PHP5 and PHP7 simultaneously (different ports), and trying to share mysql between them ... not quite properly configured yet
(09:10:30 AM) skope: i havent coded much in few weeks, summer vacation
(09:10:34 AM) skope: two weeks to go
(09:10:44 AM) jlparry: you don't program for R&R??
(09:10:55 AM) Paradinight: R&R?
(09:11:00 AM) jlparry: rest & relaxation
(09:11:17 AM) skope: :D
(09:11:36 AM) skope: i have done some postgres and angular, its relaxing
(09:11:56 AM) jlparry: I have been on "vacation" since May, but that just means that I don't have to be on campus, and get to slave away at home
(09:12:29 AM) skope: that's what i do every day :D
(09:21:14 AM) Paradinight: jlparry is there a download helper/lib features in ci4 planned?
(09:23:09 AM) jlparry: Paradinight: I don't see a specific reference to that in our planning stuff
(09:23:21 AM) CK13: how long did it take to complete phase 1?
(09:24:35 AM) jlparry: CK13: about 8 months
(09:26:11 AM) Paradinight: after the release from ci4, how many years do you support ci3?
(09:26:43 AM) jlparry: Paradinight: confirmed ... no specific plans for a download helper. you could always start a thread in the feature request subforum
(09:28:45 AM) jlparry: Paradinight: no specific planned EOL for CI3. It is popular, and I suspect it will remain supported for at least 2 years post CI4 release
(09:30:02 AM) jlparry: Note: supported != actively enhanced, but definitely includes bug fixes & security patches
(09:30:35 AM) jlparry: CI 3.0.7 and CI 3.1.0 are in the works
(09:32:56 AM) CK13: what is/was the biggest challenge in ci4?
(09:33:36 AM) jlparry: getting our heads wrapped around an architecture that would work. Lonnie posted a few stories/blog entries about that over the last year
(09:37:00 AM) arma7x: release 3.0.7 then 3.1.0 or both at same time?
(09:37:09 AM) jlparry: CK13: there was a bunch of experimentation early on, community debate & input, and debate within the council!
(09:37:52 AM) jlparry: I suspect 3.0.7 first; 3.1.0 is more comprehensive
(09:38:09 AM) jlparry: 3.1.0 includes 3.0.x :)
(09:38:22 AM) jlparry: or should I say "extends", following good OO practice
(09:38:58 AM) Paradinight: some coder have their own codeing way^^
(09:39:20 AM) Paradinight: and own philosphy
(09:39:47 AM) jlparry: OO ... subclass extends superclass ... definition, not coding way or philosophy
(09:42:15 AM) Paradinight: my text was about the debate ^^
(09:46:07 AM) jlparry: Paradinight: ic :) ... loads of different styles and philosophies, and lots of strong beliefs that theirs is "best"
(09:55:35 AM) Paradinight: how about real life example in the documentation?
(09:56:52 AM) jlparry: apart from the tutorial?
(09:57:14 AM) Paradinight: yes
(09:57:15 AM) jlparry: i plan two or three tutorials ... not sure if they would all be in the user guide
(09:57:53 AM) jlparry: i agree that would be really helpful
(10:01:11 AM) jlparry: Any final questions before concluding office hour?
(10:07:37 AM) Paradinight: is the Release of the ci4 next year or 2018?
(10:08:14 AM) jlparry: Hopefully next year. It will depend on the quality and quantity of community contributions
(10:11:13 AM) jlparry: ***************************************************************
(10:11:13 AM) jlparry: Thank you for having joined us for the CodeIgniter Office Hour
(10:11:13 AM) jlparry: ***************************************************************
(10:11:47 AM) Paradinight: thank for the hard work
James Parry
Project Lead
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