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Authentication

#11
(01-13-2017, 09:35 AM)iason Wrote: i understand the reasons not to implement authentication into CI4 but have to say that in the long term it would really benefit codeigniters userbase to have its own authentication library (maybe as third party library like ionAuth / tankAuth or communityAuth).

What you're saying here is "we shoud have what we already have" ...
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#12
(01-13-2017, 09:35 AM)iason Wrote: i understand the reasons not to implement authentication into CI4 but have to say that in the long term it would really benefit codeigniters userbase to have its own authentication library (maybe as third party library like ionAuth / tankAuth or communityAuth).

Two things:

1) Depending on how CI 4 turns out, there may not be a Community Auth for CI 4. I haven't been following along with CI 4 development, but  I'm satisfied with CI 3 and hope that it is officially supported for a long time, or that somebody takes CI 3 and keeps going with it in some capacity. At this point, the only person that could probably do that well is Narf.

2) The mentioned authentication libraries couldn't be more different, and if for instance ionAuth was the official authentication of CI 4, it'd be a major inconvenience for me. I think that's one of the reasons why it's not going to happen, because no matter what authentication was official, there would always be people that would want something else. You can't please everyone.
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#13
I wonder if the maintainers of ionAuth and tankAuth will update for CI4
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#14
(01-13-2017, 08:18 PM)albertleao Wrote: I wonder if the maintainers of ionAuth and tankAuth will update for CI4

I've seen the Ion Auth 3 repo...  but it appears to be abandoned.  The last commit was Apr 6, 2015

https://github.com/IonAuth/IonAuth

Quite honestly, if they don't update Ion Auth (edit: Ion Auth 2 from https://github.com/benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth  sorry for any confusion.), I likely will do it, because I very much enjoy using Ion Auth.  Never played with Tank Auth...
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(01-13-2017, 12:26 PM)Narf Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 09:35 AM)iason Wrote: i understand the reasons not to implement authentication into CI4 but have to say that in the long term it would really benefit codeigniters userbase to have its own authentication library (maybe as third party library like ionAuth / tankAuth or communityAuth).

What you're saying here is "we shoud have what we already have" ...

What I got from that was, he thinks the CI dev team should create a 3rd party auth system for CI4....


Because, you know, that's never been asked/answered before either.
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#16
(01-13-2017, 11:27 PM)enlivenapp Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 08:18 PM)albertleao Wrote: I wonder if the maintainers of ionAuth and tankAuth will update for CI4

I've seen the Ion Auth 3 repo...  but it appears to be abandoned.  The last commit was Apr 6, 2015

https://github.com/IonAuth/IonAuth

Quite honestly, if they don't update Ion Auth, I likely will do it, because I very much enjoy using Ion Auth.  Never played with Tank Auth...

https://github.com/benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth
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#17
(01-14-2017, 09:56 AM)Paradinight Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 11:27 PM)enlivenapp Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 08:18 PM)albertleao Wrote: I wonder if the maintainers of ionAuth and tankAuth will update for CI4

I've seen the Ion Auth 3 repo...  but it appears to be abandoned.  The last commit was Apr 6, 2015

https://github.com/IonAuth/IonAuth

Quite honestly, if they don't update Ion Auth, I likely will do it, because I very much enjoy using Ion Auth.  Never played with Tank Auth...

https://github.com/benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth

That's for CI3, not CI4
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#18
(01-14-2017, 10:06 AM)enlivenapp Wrote:
(01-14-2017, 09:56 AM)Paradinight Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 11:27 PM)enlivenapp Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 08:18 PM)albertleao Wrote: I wonder if the maintainers of ionAuth and tankAuth will update for CI4

I've seen the Ion Auth 3 repo...  but it appears to be abandoned.  The last commit was Apr 6, 2015

https://github.com/IonAuth/IonAuth

Quite honestly, if they don't update Ion Auth, I likely will do it, because I very much enjoy using Ion Auth.  Never played with Tank Auth...

https://github.com/benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth

That's for CI3, not CI4

if you want to update it use benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth not
IonAuth/IonAuth
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#19
(01-14-2017, 11:48 AM)Paradinight Wrote:
(01-14-2017, 10:06 AM)enlivenapp Wrote:
(01-14-2017, 09:56 AM)Paradinight Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 11:27 PM)enlivenapp Wrote:
(01-13-2017, 08:18 PM)albertleao Wrote: I wonder if the maintainers of ionAuth and tankAuth will update for CI4

I've seen the Ion Auth 3 repo...  but it appears to be abandoned.  The last commit was Apr 6, 2015

https://github.com/IonAuth/IonAuth

Quite honestly, if they don't update Ion Auth, I likely will do it, because I very much enjoy using Ion Auth.  Never played with Tank Auth...

https://github.com/benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth

That's for CI3, not CI4

if you want to update it use benedmunds/CodeIgniter-Ion-Auth not
IonAuth/IonAuth

Yeah, I knew that.  I was pointing out that Ben (et al) had started creating a composer based Ion Auth but it seemed a dead repo.

Sorry, my bad.  I can see where my comment about updating Ion Auth was confusing, but it was a separate though about updating Ion Auth 2 to CI4  in the repo you pointed to.
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#20
Like I mentioned --many third party projects are prone for abandonment. Authentication isn't difficult to implement, but tedious. Most developers use different libraries. Because of this, collaboration is a pain, which causes a lot of missed deadlines. It's very obvious that it's badly needed. The demand is there. Ignoring this would be very bad.
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