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New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Sbioko[/eluser]
Hello! I'm working on [another] great PHP5 framework. Its name is currently in secret, but I think it is ok for you. :-) I'm already developed these classes(libraries):
-Data
-Validation
-Pagination
-Cache(memcached)
-Config
-Database(MongoDB)
-URI
-Benchmark
-Router(with custom routing support)
MVC Pattern. Autoloading. Driver support for Database, Cache, Pagination. Custom Routing.
So, why I created this thread? I want to hear your feature requests here, in this topic, or at http://phpframework.uservoice.com. What you wanted to have in your ideal PHP framework? What is your most wanted feature? Everything is appreciated.
Thanks!
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]WanWizard[/eluser]
Sounds like another framework I know. What was it again? Eh.... Oh, I know. CodeIgniter!
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Phil Sturgeon[/eluser]
Haha, let's take a framework, throw in some buzzwords/buzztech and call it something else. Good work.
The only interesting new framework I have seen recently is Fuel by Dan Horrigan. It's taking the cascading file structure (and some of the logic) from Kohana and ignoring their shit-crazy routing and DB AR/ORM junk. Literally taking the best from both, should be exciting.
I wish you all the best, but there really are SO many frameworks out there you will struggle to gain any popularity, especially with a brief as weak as this.
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Sbioko[/eluser]
Phil, yes, I'm watching Dan's framework too and interested about it(Carbon, Thrust, Fuel). But he had just started working on it, and I'm almost near to the finish of first version. If I will like it, I'll definitely contribute to Fuel. Thank you for the wishes :-)
WanWizard, Codeigniter is great for starting. But as longer as you develop with it, you start to realize that you want to make things different. That's my opinion, you can disagree with me. It's fine.
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Sbioko[/eluser]
Phil, Fuel has only README in its repository. Where is the code and how do you know that it is cool?
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Phil Sturgeon[/eluser]
I agree with you there Sbioko, I have been using CI for about 4 years now and after playing with other frameworks there are plenty of "dream features" I'd love to be able to implement, but I usually come back to CI just because I can pump things out really quickly.
As for only having a readme, he deleted the dhorrigan/carbon repo when he created the "Fuel" Organization.
The folder structure, request handling, file-system, etc was all done and the code was looking good at that very early stage. I suggested he put a bit more work in before going mad with announcements so I assume he'll have a big push for us soon.
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Sbioko[/eluser]
I trust you about Fuel and I'll definitely look on it. But, I think I should release 0.1 and if people will like it I'll continue work on it, and if not, I will just delete it and work with Fuel.
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]CodeIgniterNewbie[/eluser]
@Sbioko - what problem are you trying to solve? What is lacking with the current frameworks available that yours will address?
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]Sbioko[/eluser]
Built-in MongoDB, Redis, CouchDB drivers, Cache(memcached, apc, eaccelerator, xcache) support. UTF8. Even if framework has this all, it is too slow(CakePHP, Zend). Don't know about Symfony. Don't like Yii and Kohana. And because I have own ideas which are not implemented in any of current frameworks.
And I just want to play with it :-) Who knows, maybe it will be the greatest framework(joke).
New PHP Framework - El Forum - 10-25-2010
[eluser]pbreit[/eluser]
As good as many of the frameworks are, it does seem like there is still room for new ideas. I like CodeIgniter's ease of use but some of its quirks are maddening (ie, querystrings) and it seems like it's a bit behind and could still be leaner. Yii seems modern but all the auto-generation and confusing patterns make me nervous. Kohana seemed to have good intentions but looks like a mess to me.
The Dan Horrigan project could be promising except for the part about it being community focused. Frameworks need a strong leader with an opinion, not committees.
Sbioko, I'd suggest putting some code out there before requesting suggestions. GitHub or BitBucket should work fine.