Too much code just to output a form

[eluser]slowgary[/eluser]
The previous poster is always on his stupid iPhone, GOSH! ;-P

I don't use the form helper either, or any of the HTML helpers as I think they're silly (although I can see the benefit of table or multidimensional unordered list generation). I also don't understand how one would go about creating a complex form with a nice layout using the helper, as I usually layout my forms with a table and sometimes there are just so many colspans/rowspans that it's confusing enough just doing it with HTML.