I need your help winning a major battle for Codeigniter

[eluser]ralphschindler[/eluser]
[quote author="usmc" date="1248206245"]Could you post an optimized sample application we could use as a starting point?
Something that doesn't use Dojo.
Can I have pickles and fries as well.

This is a great opportunity to show that I am just making sweeping accusations with little or no substance to my arguments.[/quote]

Well, I'd start by using the two most prominent applications from both camps. For CI, I downloaded:

http://codeigniter.com/downloads/ (1.7.1)

Since CI is comes as the library + an already bootstrapped and spec'd out application structure, the assumption is that by visiting index.php, its actually making a request through the CI controller.. and without any database interaction.

For ZF, this would be by downloading the ZF Quickstart Application.

http://framework.zend.com/docs/quickstart (zip or tar.gz)

To make it fair, I commented out the db ini settings in application/configs/application.ini, b/c the assumption is that since we want as close to apples to apples with raw performance and throughput without any cost of a db connection.

But, I'd like to repeat in general, that Hello World is never a good indicator for "good" or "performant" a framework since we never really ever want to just build "Hello World" as an application. When you take in the aspects I mentioned above in addition to raw performance, you start to see a balanced framework (IMO) when it comes to enterprise development needs.

Your mileage may vary of course, but I'll continue to look back at this post to see if you have any further questions in your research of both frameworks.

Cheers!
Ralph Schindler
Zend Framework