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Quote:So, step aside - you arrogant little parasite - and make way for the heavyweights.

David, I have been following your videos on Youtube for around two years now and I think you have to be careful because people might start to lose respect.

Quote:So, step aside - hobbiest - and let the grown ups talk.  You're way out of your depth.

What are your actual goals? It seems to me that you could be the one that is out of your depth. As I said, I have watched almost every one of your videos that have been uploaded for around the last two years and I have heard you say things like:

  • Agile is BS
  • PSR is BS
  • Unit Tests are BS
  • Template engines in PHP are BS
  • Design Patterns and other software architecture is BS
  • Developers that use the terminal are Gatekeepers
Whilst I totally agree with you that there is a lot of unnecessary bureaucracy (like PSR) going on in web dev, those things are there for a reason. For example, if you follow PSR then it means that you code to a particular standard and other developers also following that standard will be able to work with it more easily. Design Patterns are invaluable for my work and get me out of code spaghetti that I could write had I not known about them. Just this week you released a video about how you had named a password field in Trongate incorrectly and an update fixed it - if you used unit tests, that wouldn't have even been an issue. As I said, I agree that its becoming bureaucratic, but a lot of these ideas are there to make the software better. Additionally, template engines like Twig or Blade do have there uses like giving designers that don't understand the code the ability to implement their design.

I disagree about your thoughts on Terminal use though. You say development is about speed (I agree) - knowing how to get things done in the terminal is much faster once you learn it. Vim even more so.

One of the negatives about being a developer these days is having to learn constantly. That's just the way it is. It would be great to learn one thing and only have to know that for the rest of my career but that's not how technology works. Those that don't embrace change will get left behind. Thankfully though, once you have a basic understanding of development then you see the patterns everywhere.

Quote:Your contribution to Codeigniter is utterly insignificant next to mine.  On my worst day, I could code faster and better than ten of you on your best day.  You have never met anyone like me before and you are totally out of your depth.
Where are your pull requests/commits? You made videos (which are incredibly helpful - thank your for taking the time to make them) that you removed from Youtube. Show us the bug fixes you have contributed? For someone whose business depends on CI3, it appears that the contribution of code to the actual project to make it better is very little.

It's an open source project. People have contributed their own free time to get where it is now. You could fork the project and take it to where you want it to be.

Quote:On my worst day, I could code faster and better than ten of you on your best day.  You have never met anyone like me before and you are totally out of your depth.
Keep it professional. For someone who is a 'heavyweight' developer (what ever that means, sounds a bit like gatekeeping to me) it seems to me from what you have said in your videos that you refuse to learn things that a 'professional/heavyweight' developer might be expected to know. The Trongate Framework doesn't have unit tests that I can see. Bugs are inevitable and that's to be expected but a professional framework should have certain level of craftsmanship that can be trusted to work and easy to make bugs found and fixed. Unit tests for example are a tool to achieve a decent level of craftsmanship that is to be expected from a professional framework right of the bat.

I think that the majority of your 'speed coders' are beginner developers and that's totally fine. However, they don't understand why professional developers build software in the ways that they do because they lack the experience needed to create quality software and quality code. Development is not just about building something and taking the money. Its about building quality software with well written code that is maintainable hence design patterns etc.
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The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-23-2020, 07:50 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by jreklund - 06-23-2020, 11:39 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by albertleao - 06-23-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-23-2020, 01:35 PM
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RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-23-2020, 04:11 PM
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RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-23-2020, 07:33 PM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by orionstar - 06-23-2020, 08:06 PM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by albertleao - 06-23-2020, 08:58 PM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-23-2020, 11:08 PM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by MIS - 06-24-2020, 12:35 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by jreklund - 06-24-2020, 02:25 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-24-2020, 03:44 AM
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RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Davcon - 06-24-2020, 07:27 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Polymorphism - 06-24-2020, 07:52 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by orionstar - 06-24-2020, 08:46 AM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by albertleao - 06-24-2020, 10:02 AM
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RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Fropeasithey - 06-26-2020, 04:58 AM
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RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Fropeasithey - 06-26-2020, 02:40 PM
RE: The future of Codeigniter - by Leo - 06-27-2020, 12:37 AM
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