How badly do we want ORM?

[eluser]esra[/eluser]
[quote author="gunter" date="1187199136"]finally I could download doctrine, but its the pure horror, so complicated to setup, at least it seems to me - and nobody there at there forum to help[/quote]

Doctrine got a Google Summer of Code 2007 project and some major refactoring is underway to make the API more modular and robust. Other changes are also underway to get ready for PHP6. The documentation needs some serious work, but that will probably have to come later after the number of developer commits drops to a reasonable level.