The future of Codeigniter

Hi @Davcon, I'm that guy with the machine gun answers apparently. You said and I quote "I open these questions up to anyone", so that's what I did. Answered all of them. You may or may not like my answer, but that's my stand of thing.

You never mentioned that you have created any YouTube videos and you said that you haven't provided any code to the framework, but your whole business depends on it. So I'm just found it curious that someone who have been using CodeIgniter since 2011 (apparently) haven't helped out. And you put all blame on the people who have put their soul into the project.

CodeIgniter 3 are indeed popular as it's base can be used to upgrade from the first ever release of CodeIgniter, but as you know Laravel have taken over. And the reason for that are that added something new to the market, while CodeIgniter stayed the same. In in the long run, it lead to the downfall of CodeIgniter user base. CodeIgniter 3 works on PHP 7.3, and some addons have failed, but we can't fix everything ourselves.

Sure they re-wrote Laravel a couple of times, but people still are using it. So did they do something wrong? No - they did what the market wanted. A brand new framework that uses new technology.

CodeIgniter 3 are still being used, as it's the simplest framework out there, great documentation and years of tutorials. But there are a catch to that, it got a old architecture that's not making any headlines. That is why CodeIgniter 4 where born, a re-write of the framework to be the framework of the future - not the past.

No one stuck around for what "British Columbia Institute of Technology" (now CodeIgniter Foundation) did or didn't do, they stuck around for that single person (@narfbg) who kept going all these years. He does still to this day take care of business (as far as I know): https://github.com/bcit-ci/CodeIgniter/commits/develop

If a large number of developers suffers from lacking bug fixes, and new features in CodeIgniter 3. Why dosen't these people show themselves? This are the first time that I have heard about people suffering, there are no threads about the matter.

There are 61 open issues and 43 pull requests, and all of them (except the latest ones) have been answered by @narfbg, how much more do you expect from one person? If you have that knowledge, do something with it and help others! It's not like your whole business depends on it...

Indeed it gets run by people with normal jobs, we have no funding, so we cannot do it full time. So the Community runs this, as no one gets paid.

Yes, I think it's madness to say that CodeIgniter 4 will battle against big tech, it's not mature enough yet. Laravel didn't get built in one day and required multiple iterations before it got it's grandeur. And so will we.

I haven't seen anyone questioned the management before, so that's news to me. If people didn't agree or wanted it in a faster paste, they need to help out. It's not we have 100 programmers just waiting on us to tell them what to do. So 10/10 for what they managed to do, keeping it alive. You could have taken over in 2014, if you wanted.

Yeah, you heard it first here guys! I managed to shut down CodeIgniter by making 1000 forum posts, fixing bugs and the documentation. And wanting more people that could help us, instead of just blaming us for doing nothing while understaffed.

We aren't putting people out of business, we don't get paid by anyone. So if you want something done, you need to start helping out. We all have our hands full.

@orionstar I would also like some more information about that, have @narfbg made an official announcement somewhere?