CodeIgniter Reception

there is an element of a presupposition here @MGatner ; the wider webdev ?

I'm trying to take an objective view . You've selected a group of people that you seem to be worried about . The question might be actually who is the demographic of people who might use Codeigniter4 that maybe currently don't. There is an argument( mainly within nerds) that you can't compare Wordpress with Codeigniter because Wordpress is a CMS and CodeIgniter is a framework .

yeah but to Joe public WordPress is something can use to get the job done for websites. In terms of reddit somebody mentioned fatfree framework; well quite some time ago the single developer a guy called bonka if i've spelt his name right stated that due to various circumstances he wasn't able to give hardly any time to development. Another guy in Germany then tried to take over. Looking at the release numbers , it doesn't seem to have developed far since i last used it. So those commenting on reddit are a bit out of date.


So i think or at least it seems to me that before CI4 team start worrying about contribution to development , who thinks what first you need to decide what you want and which group of people you are going to target. Laravel seems to me to target mainly what I would describe as an "elite" group of developers. Wordpress appeals to just about everybody including "left mouse clickers" you couldn't really call them developers.

I will point out to you an example of what can happen if you leave all the thinking to the serious coders - Slackware Linux
I've written documentation for it on the documentation a site for Slackware where "Alien Bob: is the moderator. he's contributed immensely to Slackware but recently even he lost patience. if your not careful, limited thinking , where you just work from a place where you've already decided and you take decisions on the basis of that can leave you in a very limited place.



Wordpress has a huge following and even if due to its following only 0.1% of the total do actual development thats a lot of people. In business, I know from experience that getting things going is hard work; marketing is needed after a certain momentum , no marketing is needed because the business is self marketed , because people if they like it tell their friends.

Now don't take it the wrong way but here is one problem , if the thinking is left to just those that do the serious coding then everything is from their perspective , which might be quite limiting.

Now wordpress when i last had my brain running on 4 cylinders is based on a single premise of php the function. Classes are mention but if you look inside them you don't see the elements of how a class might be written. Thats probably why for extendability they use plugins which have an abomination in terms of code.


If i wanted to get CI4 going i would target those that can hardly code; i 've got a CMS , include beer did one i believe for his blog, another guy seems to be doing one.
Not sure how it could all be pulled together but i would go for the Wordpress demographic; then decide how that would be done.

I agree with @luckmoshy though that maybe these two threads should be amalgamated.

CMS CI4     I use Arch Linux by the way