Wishlist for CMS in CI.

[eluser]Thoer[/eluser]
I have to agree all the way.

[eluser]Majd Taby[/eluser]
I'm liking what I read here. I'll be glad to help.

[eluser]Thoer[/eluser]
I was just about to contact you in private Zaatar but if you read this thread, I'll just shoot my question publicly:
I watched your tutorial on JTaby about a week ago and I must say I was impressed, but I had started my own mechanism to get over with CRUDs and since my main idea was to let it figure out basic database joins I figured I'd just continue with my project as long as it offers more than yours in this aspect. (Of course it'll probably suck in other cases compared to yours.)

I'm not even done with the version '0.001 alpha' yet, but I'll share some code next week for sure. I was thinking maybe we should figure out a way to create an ultimate ORM for CI.

[eluser]Rick Jolly[/eluser]
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I was thinking maybe we should figure out a way to create an ultimate ORM for CI.
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The Rails Style Active Record Library? http://ellislab.com/forums/viewthread/61192/

[eluser]Majd Taby[/eluser]
Thoer, maybe we can work on some kind of merger.

[eluser]Thoer[/eluser]

The Rails Style Active Record Library? http://ellislab.com/forums/viewthread/61192/

That's a great library and I will pay some attention to it (along with rapyd) before I share my code, but that isn't exactly what I need. Mine won't handle huge connection graphs (at least in 0. versions) and won't bother asking the Database how its built unless you tell it to, but it will create Datagrids and Forms. And of course, it's built for php4 although public and private functions are commented and separeted CI style.

[eluser]Thoer[/eluser]
[quote author="Zaatar" date="1196564881"]Thoer, maybe we can work on some kind of merger.[/quote]
Zaatar, did you get my pms?

[Sorry for being off-topic]

[eluser]Pygon[/eluser]
Erm.. I would be suspect of an implementation of seperating a code base into two or three versions. Why not program for php5 while keeping 4 in mind? Simply avoid using static/public/private/_get/_set/_construct/_destruct or go php5 only. Honestly, CI does it without problem, don't see why a CMS couldn't do it. All in all, there aren't many PHP5 only functions that are necessary, and if they are, php.net comments usually have PHP4 compatible code.

My point is, you already have an uphill battle -- try to make things easier for those who would contribute things like security, stability, and features (hopefully in that order). I think that long before you think of "features" or "wishlists", there should be a clear core project plan -- build support for things, don't build the things. The better CMS framework you provide, the more components will be contributed by the community rather than you needing to build these components yourself up front.

Essentially, I believe you would get alot further focusing on the "M" (models) of MVC, than the views or controllers to begin with. Foremost, selecting some sort of template system (such as smarty or the like) as a "quick fix" will probably hurt you more as you move along, and many would probably start by ripping this out right away (I for one hate most template engines as their goal is to provide php-like functionality to people who don't know php....bad idea in itself).

You also need to watch out for project creep -- the more features you add, the less core development happens. Let the community write the features themselves to start and focus on getting a rock-solid core, then add features over time.

Anyway... just my suggestions.

[eluser]Sarfaraz Momin[/eluser]
Hi,
@Pygon : The suggestions you gave are up to the mark and most of them are already considered. We feel that the CMS need to be as flexible as drupal yet as solid as EE.

Suggestions are always welcomed and they will be taken real seriously if the point in it is worth the time put for its discussion.

Guys this is a real good community and very helpful. The CMS would require everyone's contribution in this and so as soon as I have something solid to show up I would let everyone know about it. Till then you can visit ignitedCMS which is the official blog for this CMS.

We have Nathan (madmaac) working on the look and feel for the CMS and the default template. If anyone else can contribute it would be gr8.

Good Day !!!

[eluser]Majd Taby[/eluser]
Since some other people are working on this (which I think is great), I'll share these links publicly..
I'll be glad to do some design work, and contribute my form generator. Check out the form generator video, and here are some examples of my design work:

http://jtaby.com:82/dump/jtaby-frontend.jpg
http://jtaby.com:82/dump/jtaby-personal.jpg
http://jtaby.com:82/dump/citastic%202%20...backup.png