The urls and the surfers

[eluser]xwero[/eluser]
Adding the title to your url is good for search engine ranks but how useful is it for the surfers? Will a user ever type such a long url?

If i look at my own surfer behavior i wouldn't do it but what are the options?

Do like amazon where the search engine friendly is backed up by an id and the id is the segment that really matters? If people link to the particular page with only the id the search engines would flag the content as duplicate if they already spidered the other url and that means lower ranking.

Use the date to almost get to the wanted page? This wouldn't generate duplicate content but the surfer needs to know the date and make that extra click to get to the content he wants to see.

Something to make it even more complex is when the same content is in multiple languages. Would the surfer need to add the preferred language to the url if the surfer makes the effort to type the title of the content?

All thoughts and comments are welcome.