MVC vs OOP in general?

[eluser]Phil Sturgeon[/eluser]
Why do I need to back up the fact that Models can extend ORM?

Rails

Code:

class Book < ActiveRecord::Base

Kohana

Code:

class Model_User extends ORM

Doctrine

Code:

class User extends Doctrine_Record

I have no issues whatsoever with people disagreeing with me, what gets me is your constant "Sturgeon you are clueless man". You keep that opinion as much as you like, but don't use it as the basis of your conversation when everybody else is trying to be constructive or discuss a valid point.