Best IDE for php/ci development

[eluser]jdfwarrior[/eluser]
[quote author="Maglok" date="1249066596"][quote author="Stallon" date="1249065530"]IMHO PHPDesigner... I just cant do without the inplace php syntax error checking... its the only reason i stick to windows for development[/quote]
Well you could learn the syntax by heart and just not need that functionality... theoretically. [/quote]
I don't think it's as much an issue of NOT knowing the syntax.. more an issue of typo's and your fingers getting ahead of your brain

[eluser]jedd[/eluser]
[quote author="Cro_Crx" date="1249064062"]but this time it's different because netbeans 6.7 is out [/quote]

Had it not been for this en passant comment, I'd not have known to try NetBeans again, so one small plus.

On the downside, NetBeans 6.7 is about as bad as 6.5 and 6.1.

Tabs still can't be highlighted. There's no distinction between spaces and tabs in the 'highlight whitespace' (so they have an idea that people might want to highlight whitespace .. but haven't made that leap to 1989 yet).

The weird indenting problem that I described in the last 'which IDE?' thread seems to have been resolved, but from memory it was an intermittent problem .. so it might not be resolved so much as 'occurs less often'.

Indenting seems still to be broken by design - the authors appear convinced that everyone wants to indent code the same way that they indent code, which is sweet, but a tad 1980's in its thinking. (Quanta+, by comparison, gives you 7 indentation modes to choose from, out of the box, and if you want you can configure your own custom model - this is software that was written a decade ago, btw.)

Oh, needless to say, I hate indenting code the way that NetBeans wants to indent code.

To be fair I think my bigger complaint here is the way that it inserts matching brackets/braces/parenthesis for you, and the way it changes your spacing (without asking) on the closing brace is the really rude bit. I'd turn off auto-insert of matching/closing braces if I was forced to use this editor, but I suspect it'd still try to frig with my indenting after I went to bed.

Braces are still highlighting in a weird (but presumably intentional) way - insofar as it only highlights the other brace to the one you're on, rather than highlighting both of them. Anyone who has used vi (f.e.) in the past 20 years - or indeed any other editor in existence - will be comfortable with both braces highlighting, and a single brace highlight (personal opinion here) gives you a sense of un-balance .. which kind of goes against the whole idea of braces.

Installation for just the PHP version of Netbeans is pretty heavy. v6.5 was 98MB, and v6.7 is 110MB. Curiously the installation process promises to use only 95MB. In any case, 110MB for an editor is a bit rude.

Performance - thanks to its java addiction presumably - still feels a bit sticky at times, and this is on an unburdened 2GB quad-core box.

[eluser]jdfwarrior[/eluser]
[quote author="jedd" date="1249070392"][quote author="Cro_Crx" date="1249064062"]but this time it's different because netbeans 6.7 is out [/quote]

Had it not been for this en passant comment, I'd not have known to try NetBeans again, so one small plus.

On the downside, NetBeans 6.7 is about as bad as 6.5 and 6.1.

Tabs still can't be highlighted. There's no distinction between spaces and tabs in the 'highlight whitespace' (so they have an idea that people might want to highlight whitespace .. but haven't made that leap to 1989 yet).

The weird indenting problem that I described in the last 'which IDE?' thread seems to have been resolved, but from memory it was an intermittent problem .. so it might not be resolved so much as 'occurs less often'.

Indenting seems still to be broken by design - the authors appear convinced that everyone wants to indent code the same way that they indent code, which is sweet, but a tad 1980's in its thinking. (Quanta+, by comparison, gives you 7 indentation modes to choose from, out of the box, and if you want you can configure your own custom model - this is software that was written a decade ago, btw.)

Oh, needless to say, I hate indenting code the way that NetBeans wants to indent code.

To be fair I think my bigger complaint here is the way that it inserts matching brackets/braces/parenthesis for you, and the way it changes your spacing (without asking) on the closing brace is the really rude bit. I'd turn off auto-insert of matching/closing braces if I was forced to use this editor, but I suspect it'd still try to frig with my indenting after I went to bed.

Braces are still highlighting in a weird (but presumably intentional) way - insofar as it only highlights the other brace to the one you're on, rather than highlighting both of them. Anyone who has used vi (f.e.) in the past 20 years - or indeed any other editor in existence - will be comfortable with both braces highlighting, and a single brace highlight (personal opinion here) gives you a sense of un-balance .. which kind of goes against the whole idea of braces.

Installation for just the PHP version of Netbeans is pretty heavy. v6.5 was 98MB, and v6.7 is 110MB. Curiously the installation process promises to use only 95MB. In any case, 110MB for an editor is a bit rude.

Performance - thanks to its java addiction presumably - still feels a bit sticky at times, and this is on an unburdened 2GB quad-core box.[/quote]

well put sir

[eluser]Dam1an[/eluser]
[quote author="jedd" date="1249070392"]
Installation for just the PHP version of Netbeans is pretty heavy. v6.5 was 98MB, and v6.7 is 110MB. Curiously the installation process promises to use only 95MB. In any case, 110MB for an editor is a bit rude.[/quote]

Eh? Looking on the downloads page the PHP version is a 26Mb download... you downloading it bundled with the Java runtime or something?

[eluser]GSV Sleeper Service[/eluser]
I'm using Aptana at the moment, it's basically Eclipse that doesn't take 4 hours to switch to a dark colour scheme.
first person to call textmate or coda an IDE gets a slap.

[eluser]Dam1an[/eluser]
[quote author="GSV Sleeper Service" date="1249071894"]
first person to call textmate or coda an IDE gets a slap.[/quote]

What about plain old Notepad?

[eluser]jedd[/eluser]
[quote author="Dam1an" date="1249071398"]
Eh? Looking on the downloads page the PHP version is a 26Mb download... you downloading it bundled with the Java runtime or something?[/quote]

The download is 26MB, verily .. but it installs to over 100MB.

Presumably it's due to those excessive number of highly-compressible spaces they have littered about their code - if only they embraced TAB technology. {wistfully}

[eluser]jdfwarrior[/eluser]
[quote author="GSV Sleeper Service" date="1249071894"]I'm using Aptana at the moment, it's basically Eclipse that doesn't take 4 hours to switch to a dark colour scheme.
first person to call textmate or coda an IDE gets a slap.[/quote]

Aptana is just as bad. I think we should all swap to Vi and stop all this nonsense.

[eluser]Dam1an[/eluser]
[quote author="jedd" date="1249072116"][quote author="Dam1an" date="1249071398"]
Eh? Looking on the downloads page the PHP version is a 26Mb download... you downloading it bundled with the Java runtime or something?[/quote]

The download is 26MB, verily .. but it installs to over 100MB.
[/quote]

SO nows not a good time to mention that Eclipse installs at 165Mb?
Do you care about this on principle or because you have a small HD and an IDE using up 100Mb is a big deal?

[eluser]Twisted1919[/eluser]
e-texteditor ?
Is not quite a IDE but ... ?
Ah , also jEdit is out there , what about this ?