[eluser]Ollie Rattue[/eluser]
[quote author="fedeisas" date="1306474586"]If I was to build a large web app (such as Basecamp), UAM is the least of my worries. Most of web apps are unique systems that offers an unique service. I'm not saying that your idea sucks, I'm just saying that is gonna be almost impossible to build something flexible enough.[/quote]
UAM - I have never heard this acronym before. I assume you mean authentication.
I still disagree. Every SAS app needs a billing system. Nothing is unique about this. They are all the same. To build a decent billing system with plans, upgrades, downgrades, cancellations, and recurring billing will take anyone a couple of days. This is just one feature of the starter kit.
[quote author="fedeisas" date="1306474586"]Also, I'm not really sure that other community's are more "startup oriented". We are all here, using a framework, because we recognize the need of building apps faster (RAD: Rapid Application Development). It has been discussed several times in this forum and the Codeigniter's UserVoice the need of putting authentication out of the box. Actually, some PHP frameworks already have UAM.[/quote]
Ruby on Rails is definitely more "startup oriented". The number of successful SAS web apps (could list 20 off the top of my head right now) on ROR far outweighs CodeIgniter (of which I can only think of a few). This is so much the case that Buffer was cited as evidence that web apps don't have to be built on ROR. For whatever reason ROR caught the imagination of startup web app community and is the go to framework / language for SAS. CodeIgniter on the other hand doesn't have this image or community. You could see this at CICon conference in Bristol last year. Everyone was talking tech, very little business. Almost everyone was a freelance developer. You go to a Rails conference and people are talking marketing, business, design, and lots of people are running their own startups.
For me CI is about client development. Clients want a known commodity, an established language such as PHP, and aren't as eager to jump on something cutting edge such as Rails.
Interested to hear whether others think this point of view is fair.
[quote author="fedeisas" date="1306474586"]OT: Hey, that's great! If you happen to visit my city (Tucumán) I'll buy you a beer![/quote]
Cheers
