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(01-24-2017, 06:44 PM)prezire Wrote: @Narf You assume too much. Don't be so certain about your 100%. I didn't graduate with honors and formally became a senior developer/engineer two years after working, just so you can arrogantly say I don't have half the knowledge to implement Authentication and Authorization flows. And as I said implement (to use), and not create (from scratch). Get the difference? You consistently assume too much.

Going back to the request, it's about creating bare bones Auth structures that CI4 can call its own. As I mentioned, not all of a project's members are using the same Auth libraries. That alone could lead to more wasted time in creating and reading different library documentations and all else shouting while discussing when using the CI framework.

I didn't go to college for anything computer related, but am self taught, and have 11 years of PHP experience. About ten years ago I attempted to make my first authentication related code; at the time just procedural code. It was in 2009 that I started using CodeIgniter, and almost immediately created the Community Auth project. The whole reason it was named "Community" was because I thought people here would be interested in helping, and that together we could create an authentication that CI lacked. Turns out that nobody wanted to help, and with the exception of like 1 pull request ever, I had to work on the whole project by myself. You could say that it sucks, and that's why nobody ever wanted to help, and you might be right. I don't know, because I don't get a lot of feedback. What I do know is that everyone wants to do it their way, and the same can be said for all kinds of stuff that's already built into CodeIgniter. Seriously, how may redundant crappy libraries have been introduced for stuff that can already be done.

Right now there are a handful of auth libraries for CI3, and if any one was picked, or if CI came out with something official for CI4, lots of people are going to hate it, and bitch about it. Not only that, but because auth seems to always use sessions, there would be countless new posts in the forum on "auth doesn't work", "auth won't stay logged in", "auth issue X". Ask me how I know.

So, the Laravel experience has been noted, and I've used it, and I made it work, but I still wanted my own auth. Honestly, it's way too friggin complicated to extend, and if I was going to do all that work, then why not just make my own? I guess an absolute beginner could benefit from built in auth, but a lot of people that use CI have no business even using a framework. They don't even know PHP. Do we really make auth just for these people? Don't seem like a good idea.
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Authentication - by ufhy - 08-22-2016, 11:42 AM
RE: Authentication - by albertleao - 08-22-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Authentication - by PaulD - 08-22-2016, 11:51 AM
RE: Authentication - by prezire - 08-22-2016, 03:17 PM
RE: Authentication - by PaulD - 08-22-2016, 03:47 PM
RE: Authentication - by allan - 10-24-2016, 03:36 AM
RE: Authentication - by pathusutariya - 12-11-2016, 11:17 PM
RE: Authentication - by ciadmin - 12-12-2016, 12:37 AM
RE: Authentication - by qury - 01-11-2017, 03:23 AM
RE: Authentication - by iason - 01-13-2017, 08:35 AM
RE: Authentication - by Narf - 01-13-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Authentication - by enlivenapp - 01-13-2017, 10:31 PM
RE: Authentication - by skunkbad - 01-13-2017, 06:00 PM
RE: Authentication - by albertleao - 01-13-2017, 07:18 PM
RE: Authentication - by enlivenapp - 01-13-2017, 10:27 PM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 01-14-2017, 08:56 AM
RE: Authentication - by enlivenapp - 01-14-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 01-14-2017, 10:48 AM
RE: Authentication - by enlivenapp - 01-14-2017, 11:09 AM
RE: Authentication - by prezire - 01-17-2017, 06:37 AM
RE: Authentication - by skunkbad - 01-17-2017, 03:57 PM
RE: Authentication - by byazrail - 01-19-2017, 11:42 PM
RE: Authentication - by andersonsalas - 01-20-2017, 08:46 AM
RE: Authentication - by Narf - 01-20-2017, 08:52 AM
RE: Authentication - by andersonsalas - 01-20-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: Authentication - by prezire - 01-24-2017, 04:52 AM
RE: Authentication - by Narf - 01-24-2017, 06:43 AM
RE: Authentication - by ivantcholakov - 01-24-2017, 08:03 AM
RE: Authentication - by prezire - 01-24-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: Authentication - by skunkbad - 01-24-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Authentication - by Narf - 01-25-2017, 02:34 AM
RE: Authentication - by prezire - 01-25-2017, 05:52 AM
RE: Authentication - by Narf - 01-25-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: Authentication - by InsiteFX - 01-26-2017, 06:20 AM
RE: Authentication - by Sezu - 01-27-2017, 12:51 AM
RE: Authentication - by baselbj - 02-21-2017, 12:45 AM
RE: Authentication - by Hamed - 05-25-2017, 07:12 AM
RE: Authentication - by skunkbad - 05-25-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: Authentication - by prezire - 05-30-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Authentication - by PaulD - 05-31-2017, 10:36 AM
RE: Authentication - by desbest - 06-16-2017, 05:57 PM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 06-16-2017, 11:47 PM
RE: Authentication - by Diederik - 06-16-2017, 11:53 PM
RE: Authentication - by desbest - 06-17-2017, 03:46 AM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 06-17-2017, 04:08 AM
RE: Authentication - by desbest - 06-17-2017, 04:34 AM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 06-17-2017, 04:51 AM
RE: Authentication - by desbest - 06-17-2017, 08:28 AM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 06-17-2017, 09:01 AM
RE: Authentication - by desbest - 06-17-2017, 09:11 AM
RE: Authentication - by Paradinight - 06-17-2017, 09:19 AM
RE: Authentication - by albertleao - 06-17-2017, 09:52 AM



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