Office Hours - April 2015

Today's office hour has concluded. Not a lot of action! Transcript below:

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(09:01:19 AM) jlparry: ***************************************************************
(09:01:19 AM) jlparry: Welcome to the CodeIgniter Office Hour
(09:01:19 AM) jlparry: This is Jim Parry, Project Lead
(09:01:19 AM) jlparry: We are here to answer any questions you have. Be nice!
(09:01:19 AM) jlparry: ***************************************************************
(09:01:53 AM) jlparry: zigmoo: the moment you have been waiting for ...
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(09:08:52 AM) marcogmonteiro: hey freshpixel_  long time to see, all good?
(09:09:01 AM) marcogmonteiro: hey jlparry
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marcogmonteiro MarkyC
(09:10:12 AM) jlparry: marcogmonteiro: hey, hey
(09:11:00 AM) VictorCL_: jlparry doing an IAmA
(09:11:09 AM) jlparry: ?
(09:11:09 AM) marcogmonteiro: hehehe kinda :D
(09:11:37 AM) marcogmonteiro: jlparry it's a reddit thing, where people go there and say, hello I am foo, ask me anything :P
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(09:12:01 AM) jlparry: ah ... sorta, except a bit more focused
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(09:12:32 AM) VictorCL_: jlparry I have a question, after codeigniter 3 being long time under development and changed owner .. will stuff be moving faster now?
(09:13:10 AM) VictorCL_: what can we expect for CI future?
(09:13:36 AM) jlparry: i think stuff already is ... the community has re-engaged, we have lots of contributions (though we need more on the core team), and we are actively trying to move forward
(09:14:06 AM) jlparry: "short term" - CI4
(09:14:50 AM) jlparry: CI has a home, a loving family, and a mission ... should be around for a while :)
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(09:18:50 AM) jlparry: if you are looking for a CI feature list, that is premature ... that is playing out on the forum http://forum.codeigniter.com/forum-27.html
(09:19:27 AM) jlparry: at the last office hour, i was asked if the council could provide some feedback in that forum, on where our heads are at and what we think of the proposed features
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(09:19:54 AM) jlparry: we are in the middle of preparing that - should be posted in the next few days
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(09:34:15 AM) VictorCL_: jlparry CI4 is already under development or still deciding on how is going to be?
(09:34:30 AM) jlparry: still in planning/playing stage
(09:35:34 AM) jlparry: it will likely be june before we are ready to look at serious development
(09:36:48 AM) VictorCL_: CI revival
(09:37:10 AM) VictorCL_: many people left CI because they though that the project was dead
(09:37:16 AM) jlparry: agreed
(09:37:27 AM) jlparry: or because they wanted the kitchen sink with their framework
(09:37:47 AM) VictorCL_: if we talk more about CI4 people will realize that new stuff coming up and they will get interested again
(09:37:54 AM) VictorCL_: jlparry :)
(09:37:57 AM) jlparry: hope so!
(09:38:35 AM) VictorCL_: we need to translate the userguide
(09:38:58 AM) jlparry: looks like about 60 have voted on something (or many things) on the CI4 subforum ... i am pretty sure that there are more developers than that using CI
(09:39:10 AM) VictorCL_: many people coming asking for a french/spanish userguide
(09:39:56 AM) jlparry: 196 pages, hmmm - how long would that take to translate, do you think?
(09:40:07 AM) jlparry: page = HTML page; some of those are quite lengthy
(09:40:32 AM) jlparry: bottom line - great idea, but we do not have the resources to do an initial translation, let alone keep multiple translations in sync :(
(09:40:40 AM) VictorCL_: yes I understand
(09:40:43 AM) VictorCL_: involve the comunity
(09:41:13 AM) jlparry: we are having better luck with the system message translations, but that is a lot less work
(09:41:28 AM) jlparry: even still, trying to coordinate and sync 35 translations is a challenge
(09:41:50 AM) VictorCL_: we could like .. google translate the 196 pages and then we just have to fix the errors from google translate ,much less work
(09:42:02 AM) VictorCL_: it wont be perfect, but is something
(09:42:37 AM) jlparry: i am not convinced that google translate would work ... you don't want code mangled, for instance
(09:43:29 AM) jlparry: actually, if google translate is "good enough", then why not use use https://translate.google.com/ to browse the manual?
(09:45:05 AM) jlparry: i just tried that, and the code examples are mangled. it changes key things, eg. $config becomes "$ Config" and $hooks becomes "$ Gancho"
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(09:48:57 AM) VictorCL_: yeah thats a problem
(09:49:14 AM) VictorCL_: gancho xD
(09:49:28 AM) VictorCL_: would be good if google translate had some kind of filters
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(09:49:59 AM) jlparry: here ya go ... let's see what the general response is ... http://forum.codeigniter.com/thread-61437.html
(09:51:31 AM) jlparry: have you looked at the user guide source? it's in RST and the HTML is generated by sphinx
(09:52:03 AM) VictorCL_: spanish
(09:52:06 AM) VictorCL_: many spanish people asking
(09:53:38 AM) jlparry: agreed - i just used a couple of examples, and i didn't want to sound like i was asking your question for you. i have inquiries about french & persian
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(10:06:14 AM) jlparry: *****************************************************************************************************
(10:06:14 AM) jlparry: Thank you, VictorCL & marcogmonteiro (briefly), for joining me for the CodeIgniter Office Hour
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James Parry
Project Lead