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[eluser]buffalobill[/eluser]
I posted the following message a few hours back as a response to Derek-the-Administrator's posting concerning tutorials and the like, and something tells me that that particular location was about as far away from 42nd & Broadway [42&B;was once the busiest intersection in NYC, maybe still is) as you can get, therefore I post it anew, but as a completely new thread, albeit, at the risk of thus working it threadbare :-)]. I should add that, with reference to the rant below, I did try and rearrange the folder path in the most obvious ways - by eliminating first the one sub-folder, then the other - but nothing helped. Anyways, I hope this problem gets more attention here, otherwise I will have to think up something more eye-catching [maybe a pornographic title?... note how the title to this thread has already inched a bit in that direction ;) ]...
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Dear Derek,
I wish that CI’s own tutorials, the written one and the video one on form validation, were as well-functioning as those to which you refer on wiki (I assume the latter are well-funtioning, I haven’t seen them yet, but I can report that the CI ones just mentioned aren’t!). The QT player required to play the video tutorials (one on the CI methodology in general, the other on form validation, I presume - it concerns creating one’s blogsite in 20 minutes) just doesn’t work, even after updating the QT player and rebooting my machine (the video has excellent audio properties, but no imagery!). W.r.t. the “written” [NB: text-only] form validation tutorial, there is a problem with the folder paths listed. One is asked to create PHP files and place them in an applications/views and an applications/controllers folder, depending on the type, or function, of the file in question, and then to try and access those files with an URL that looks like so: <http://www.mysite.com/index.php/form/> (if it is the file entitled “form” which one is attempting to access).
First of all, nowhere in the tutorial is there mention of the creation of an index.php file, and one’s website is certainly not born with such a file, even if it is PHP-ready, as is my site (I can easily access PHP files on my site, just not via the folder path suggested by the CI tutorial). And perhaps more importantly, the tutorial files do not seem to link in any intuitive way to mysite.com/applications/(view or controllers, as the case may be). But perhaps even more critically, the view file (viz., there are “view” files and “controller” files, each with its respective function… uh, I mention this for the benefit of novices like me : } ), which is supposed to introduce the form (i.e., the user-input form around which the entire tutorial centers), does not contain any recipe for creating a form, only a “Welcome to my blog!” message.
Now, I can appreciate that the creator of this particular “view” form may have considered that it wasn’t so important to actually create an input form with the file (entitled “blogview"), yet I contend that, paedagogically [NB: SP!], it is imperative to do so when the audience is purportedly the novice - and it is not as if the code necessary to create such an input form is all that daunting; omitting it, for novices, is a cardinal sin!
I can follow other online tutorials (the folder paths are designated correctly), but they don’t divulge the entire code - crucial bits are concealed; one has to purchase the product in order to gain full insight, which is what first attracted me to CI’s tutorial, because all the code seemed to be there for the beginning tutorial (although I would have liked for it to be complete, in the sense that it was a complete PHP-based form validation exercise, such that when one was finished with the tutorial, one had a ready-to-insert form validation code, replete with form fields).
Yours,
buffalobill [because his last name is cody ["cody" < "code", get it? | : - } ]
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